Where Neil got his signature ride pattern

[benrand]

TheGreatDeceiver.mp3

Classic Bruford. It's got it all, wierd fills, wierd beats, tricky turn arounds, wierdness and a little bit more wierdness...plus the broken 16th ride pattern that Neil played, well used to play, so often...

Cigarettes, Ice Cream...

[peter c]

That era of the 1970's spawned
more than it is given credit for.
It was a literal renaissance in
rock and jazz.

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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 25, 2004 05:11 PM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font>

[mwm]

I suppose -- but listening to that makes me remember why I was glad that punk and then new wave came in. I mean I liked it at first, but it got old to me quickly.

Those guys spent so much time elaborating, you had a hard time finding the music -- my opinion, of course.

[Vdrummer]

I love the change to the verse and John Wetton's delivery. KC was always ahead of its time. Thet don't call it progressive for nothing. Superfunky.

BTW, I don't know of any pattern or lick that Neil has been credited with, that he actually came up with. Lots of Bruford, Cobham and other top 70's drummers influences (licks).

Some (all?) of the early Rush material was assembled from different takes via razor blade/tape splicing. Neil has said that some of his fills were created this way (he'd never played them that way - the first half from that take, the second from another), and that he later had to learn how to play them off the record (just like the rest of us).

Many bands did this, not just Rush. Yes' Close to the Edge was pretty obviously created this way. Many little sections cut and assembled into a tune, much like a film is edited. Metallica's Master or Puppets, Steely Dan's Gaucho and many others, were also comped together via tape splicing. Today we do it with Pro Tools.

Brad

[buga]

Speaking of Bruford, I just got watching Crimson's performance on Conan O'Brein promoting Thrak. They played "Dinosaur", Bill is on a yellow-ish kit, with a yellow suit no less!. Mastelloto is the other drummer, Fripp is playing a Les Paul on the background(seating on a stool) and mostly harmonizing along and filling in, he does sum nice single note slide in the solo, Levin on bass doing backup vovcals, Gunn on Warr/Stick and Belew guitar/synthz and of course vocals. The track is mostly 4/4 in the verses I think and shifts btw sum 5/7 in the bridge. Kewl stuff. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 26, 2004 11:08 PM: Message edited by: Bozzio ]</font>

[five eight]

What an out-of-left-field topic; this is what makes HOD great. Thanks for reminding me of that awesome music! Haven't listened to it for at least a year, but I am now.

The era of King Crimson with Bruford produced some breathtaking recordings: Red; Lark's Tongues In Aspic; and Starless and Bible Black (or as Bruford called it Braless and Slightly Slack.)